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THE FOLLY OF DUTERTE'S IATF KNOWS NO LIMITS: Cebu Governor Asserts No Legal Basis To Arrest Unmasked Persons Outdoors

Cebu Governor Asserts No Legal Basis To Arrest Unmasked Persons Outdoors

 
Cebu Governor Speaks on DILG’s Warning to Arrest Unmasked Persons

Cebu Governor Gwen Garcia asserted that there is no legal basis to arrest persons who are not wearing face masks outdoors in the province.

It is more than two (2) years now since the pandemic started. In the Philippines, the people are mandated to wear face masks most especially in public areas as a move to fight the spread of COVID-19.

Amid the easing of the restrictions following the reduced number of cases in the past few months, the mandatory face mask policy in outdoor areas remains. Some local government units (LGUs) have their own consequences for those who will be caught not wearing face masks outdoors.

Recently, amid the easing of cases, Cebu Governor Gwen Garcia released an executive order lifting the mandatory face mask policy in outdoor and well-ventilated areas in the province. She cited that other nations like Singapore did the same.

However, the Department of Health (DOH) and the Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) were quick to react to the move of the provincial government of Cebu.

The Health Department stressed that the provincial government should have consulted the IATF. As for Interior Secretary Eduardo Año, he does not recognize the E.O. of Garcia and he warned that individuals who will be caught not wearing a face mask may be arrested “if necessary”.

Based on a report on ABS-CBN News, amid the warning of the Interior Secretary, Cebu Governor Gwen Garcia asserted that there is “no legal basis” to arrest unmasked individuals outdoors in the province. She stressed that she already released an order making the wearing of face masks outdoors optional.

In her E.O., Garcia stressed that the wearing of face masks is only mandatory in close and air-conditioned areas. Those who are exhibiting symptoms of COVID-19 are also mandated to wear a face mask even outdoors.

READ ALSO: France Lifts Mandatory Face Mask Protocol amid Lowering Cases

IATF TO BE ALLOWED TO BECOME A NEW LEGISLATIVE BODY ON TOP OF THE CONGRESS OF THE PHILIPPINES AS PER DUTERTE'S STUPID CAPTURE BY THE GLOBAL PHARMACEUTICAL-MILITARY COMPLEX

 

Cebu governor rejects DILG ultimatum on masks

By: - Senior Reporter / @inquirervisayas
/ 04:40 AM June 20, 2022
Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia STORY: Cebu governor rejects DILG ultimatum on masks

Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia (Photo from her Facebook page)

CEBU CITY, Cebu, Philippines — Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia will not amend her order allowing the optional use of face masks in open and well-ventilated spaces in the province despite an ultimatum given by the Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG) for her to “rectify” the directive.

The governor said she would stand by her executive order that was later adopted by the provincial board through an ordinance.

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“Walang personalan ’to (I have nothing personal against the DILG). I am just acting according to my mandate and I am deciding in accordance with my huge responsibility to the millions of Cebuanos who have entrusted to me their welfare and their benefit,” she said in a press briefing on Friday.

Last week, Interior Secretary Eduardo Año gave the Cebu provincial officials until the weekend to amend the executive order and the ordinance on the optional use of face masks in the province, or they could face charges.

Año repeatedly said that Garcia’s executive order and the ordinance had no legal basis as these contradicted the national policies embodied in the Inter-Agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases guidelines, which made mandatory the use of face masks in public places.

‘Let it go’

Garcia, however, said the passage of the ordinance and her executive order were backed by provisions of the Local Government Code that granted provincial governments autonomy in creating laws.

Instead of focusing on Cebu, Garcia said Año should “just let it go” as the latter was going to leave his post in the DILG at the end of June when the new administration of President-elect Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. starts.

Despite the opposing opinions between her and the outgoing secretary, Garcia maintained there was no “bad blood” between her and Año.

“I wouldn’t call that bad blood because bad blood can be infectious,” Garcia said.

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Duterte honors IATF members, health experts for pandemic response contribution: THE WHOLE IATF BELONGS TO JAIL TOGETHER WITH THE PSYCHOPATH DUTERTE

 

Duterte honors IATF members, health experts for pandemic response contribution

Published June 17, 2022, 10:08 AM

by Argyll Cyrus Geducos

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President Duterte has conferred the Presidential Merit Award to several Cabinet Secretaries, members of the Inter-agency Task Force (IATF) for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases, and medical experts for their contribution to the country’s fight against the Covid-19 pandemic.

President Duterte confers the President Award to Cabinet Secretaries, members of the Inter-agency Task Force (IATF) for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases, and health experts for their contribution to the country’s fight against the Covid-19 pandemic in a ceremony in Malacañang on June 16, 2022. (RTVM screenshots)

The ceremony occurred at the Rizal Hall in Malacañang on June 16, 2022. It was President Duterte’s third event that day that was not aired live on any social media platforms run by the Presidential Communications Operations Office (PCOO).

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In a three-minute clip uploaded to the Facebook page of Radio Television Malacañang (RTVM), President Duterte was seen conferring medals and plaques to medical experts whom the IATF has been consulting in addressing the pandemic.

Some of the members of the IATF who received the Presidential Award were:

  • Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana
  • Vaccine Czar Carlito Galvez Jr.
  • Health Undersecretary Ma. Rosario Vergeire
  • Education Secretary Leonor Briones
  • Communications Secretary Martin Andanar
  • Social Welfare Secretary Rolando Bautista
  • Labor Secretary Silvestre Bello III
  • Civil Service Commission Chairman Karlo Nograles
  • Health Secretary Francisco Duque III
  • Interior Secretary Eduardo Año
  • Testing Czar Vince Dizon
  • Transportation Secretary Arthur Tugade
  • Finance Secretary Carlos Dominguez II
  • Executive Secretary Salvador Medialdea

National Security Adviser Hermogenes Esperon, Energy Secretary Alfonso Cusi, and the President’s long-time aide Senator Bong Go also got recognition.

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The Presidential Merit Award is one of the highest awards conferred by a Philippine President to individuals in recognition of their contribution to nation-building.

In a Facebook post, Communications Secretary Martin Andanar said his award was for the contribution of the PCOO and the Office of the Presidential Spokesperson to IATF operations in fighting Covid-19.

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“I am dedicating this award to all the men and women of my department who worked hard with me to communicate the government’s message during the most difficult times of the pandemic,” he wrote.

“What a way to end my term. Thank you and Amen, Lord!” he added.

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DRAGHI E' FINITO, DEVE ESSERE ELIMINATO: IL SOSTITUTO SI STA SCALDANDO FUORICAMPO. L'OPPOSIZIONE? UN BRANCO DI IDIOTI CIARLATANI DA TRE ANNI CHE CONTINUA A FARNETICARE.

 

Guardatevi intorno: non c’è bisogno di un governo militare. Il golpe è già stato fatto

Oggi parliamo di un editoriale de La Stampa di Marcello Sorgi. Ha prodotto molto dibattito. Lui diceva che se Draghi se ne va arrivano i militari. In Italia, in Europa, è da decine d’anni che non si parla di questioni di questo genere. L’ultimo tentato Golpe che ebbe un minimo di fondo fu quello del Colonnello Tejero che entrò armi in pugno alle corte spagnole nel 1981. Lì le colonne corazzate del tenente generale Dal Bosch avevano circondato Madrid ma la nascente borghesia spagnola non voleva un’avventura neo-franchista e quindi la cosa si risolse con l’arresto di tutti i congiurati.
La discussione tra Golpe e democrazia e dittatura credo sia molto stringente. Si sentono evocare le parole della libertà, della dittatura. Vorremmo approfondire un secondo.


Dove sta il potere oggi? Sta nella politica? Ma voi pensate che la politica italiana, il Senato, il Parlamento, decidono sulla politica economica italiana? Al massimo decidono su cose laterali, su porti aperti e porti chiusi, sul DDL Zan, ma la grande politica economia e sociale, quella che determina la vita di tutti i giorni, viene decisa altrove, all’estero, dal fondo monetario internazionale, dalla BCE, dall’UE, dalla Nato.
Abbiamo Governi e Parlamenti esautorati dalla questione. Siamo in un Paese dove le multinazionali arrivano, rubano i marchi, sfruttano i lavoratori, prendono i soldi dallo Stato e quando decidono di delocalizzare, licenziano. Non pagano neanche la tasse. Non sono solo straniere queste multinazionali.
Questa è la situazione. Allora vorrei ricordare a Sorgi e a quelli che hanno partecipato a questa discussione sulla dittatura, sul Golpe, sul dopo Draghi… Non hanno bisogno di fare il Golpe militare perché lo hanno già fatto. La libertà in questo Paese non è più nelle mani del popolo ma della finanza, della grande economia che governano al posto della politica.
Non sarà un caso che come Premier abbiamo un banchiere che è stato a capo di banche pubbliche e private.

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DRAGHI E' FINITO: IL SOSTITUTO SI STA SCALDANDO FUORICAMPO

 

“Se cade Draghi pronti i colonnelli”: l’ipotesi shock si fa strada sui quotidiani

Oggi mi ha molto turbato un titolo che ho letto sul quotidiano “La Verità”: “Se cade Draghi pronti i colonnelli”. Sottotitolo: “In caso di sfiducia Mattarella potrebbe mettere su un governo elettorale, forse perfino militare”.
In realtà si vocifera così da giorni. Se anche fosse solo una voce, una diceria, è una voce che dobbiamo stroncare sul nascere, condannare con forza e che deve far risuonare in noi molti campanelli d’allarme.

Nella mia ultima inchiesta “Il Diego Rivoluzionario”, ho descritto nei dettagli quanto avvenuto in Argentina nel 1976, con l’arrivo al potere della più sanguinosa delle dittature militari: quella del generale Videla.
Vi assicuro che quella dittatura è iniziata, come tante altre, senza che il popolo se ne rendesse conto. E’ iniziata usando proprio la formula “governo militare di scopo”, per portare avanti quello che chiamavano un “processo di riorganizzazione nazionale” con l’aiuto dei militari.
Videla non è entrato in Argentina con i carri armati, non ha ammassato gli oppositori in uno stadio per trucidarli e non ha ucciso o costretto al suicidio il presidente in carica, così come accaduto nel Cile di Allende ai tempi del golpe di Pinochet.

Quel modo di imporre dittature si era dimostrato fallimentare: troppo rumoroso, troppo plateale.
In Argentina Videla era già a capo dell’esercito. Ha semplicemente estromesso il presidente Isabel Martínez de Perón dicendole che lui non era più il capo dell’esercito in quel momento, ma era l’esercito che comandava il Governo.
Isabelita Perón non è stata uccisa durante il colpo di Stato. Militari nelle strade non se ne videro. Dissero che era “un processo di riorganizzazione”: la frase che oggi è stata sostituita da “big reset”.
I media mondiali furono tutti accondiscendenti, addirittura si giocarono i mondiali del ’78 in Argentina. Quei mondiali avrebbero legittimato la dittatura che intanto torturava i dissidenti politici, i peronisti di sinistra, gli universitari, gli attivisti politici. Tutti giovanissimi, una generazione scomparsa nel nulla. Perché? Perché l’Argentina “doveva riorganizzarsi” in un processo che i media dovevano fingere di non vedere.

Quando dunque usano queste parole, quando propongono questi progetti, drizziamo le antenne. Non devono passare.

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Bill Gates-Funded Picnic Grocery Store Burned to Ground in Netherlands Amid Dutch Protests

by Adan Salazar

 

A grocery facility funded by globalist Bill Gates caught fire in the Netherlands, as Dutch farmers protest against the government’s mandatory carbon-cutting scheme.

Video from Monday night shows the online-only supermarket Picnic facility in Almelo going up in flames.

Picnic, which specializes in delivery services via electric vehicles and reportedly promotes sustainability practices, received €600 million from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Trust last year to expand across Europe.

The fire comes as farmers in the Netherlands have been staging demonstrations protesting the government’s new climate rules that force them to reduce fertilizer use and livestock numbers in purported efforts to cut nitrogen and ammonia emissions.

Political commentator Eva Vlaardingerbroek pointed out the brother of the Dutch Minister who pushed for nitrogen control laws actually owns Picnic, adding the company also markets plant-based meats.

While the official cause of the blaze is as yet unknown, it’s widely speculated the fire may have been caused by arson, with Newsweek claiming farmers suspect Gates may have had a hand in the radical new climate policies.


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LA STRATEGIA DEL SACRIFICIO UMANO IN STILLICIDIO DEL GREAT RESET E' FALLITA. ADESSO DEVONO TIRARE FUORI IL BAZOOKA PER NON FINIRE TUTTI IN GALERA.

Dutch Farmers Ignite Worldwide Anti-Globalist Uprising

Greg Reese

The Dutch farmers have been pushed into revolution by their government determined to impose the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset model in the country, which is accelerating food shortages and spreading into a full-blown anti-globalist movement across Europe.

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Number of Americans Willing to Take Up Arms Against Government Revealed: LA STRATEGIA DEL SACRIFICIO UMANO IN STILLICIDIO DEL GREAT RESET E' FALLITA. ADESSO DEVONO TIRARE FUORI IL BAZOOKA PER NON FINIRE TUTTI IN GALERA.

 

Number of Americans Willing to Take Up Arms Against Government Revealed

by RT
Most people in the US see the government as rigged against them and a quarter mull pushing back with violence, a poll shows
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Almost half of Americans feel like strangers in their own country, a new opinion poll has revealed. It also claims that the majority of people consider their government as a corrupt institution working against them, with more than a quarter saying it may be necessary to take up arms.

The picture of public discontent was revealed by a poll published on Tuesday by the Institute of Politics of the University of Chicago. Two pollsters, one from each major party, surveyed 1,000 registered voters to study divisions in the country.

The results showed a high level of dissatisfaction across political and ideological lines in the US. In total 49% said they increasingly felt like strangers in their homeland, with the mood more prevalent among Republicans, Independents and conservatives. But even Democrats feel the alienation, with 40% agreeing with the sentiment to some degree.

When asked if they considered the government “corrupt and rigged against everyday people like me,” 56% of respondents said they did. Democrats were the only group where the share of people who disagreed with the statement was slightly larger than those who agreed, by a two percentage point margin.

The statement that “it may be necessary at some point soon for citizens to take up arms against the government” was supported by 28% of Americans, including 38% of conservatives, 36% of Republicans, 35% of Independents, and 37% of those who have guns in their homes. Even among self-described soft Democrats, 19% said armed resistance may be necessary.

While supporters of the major parties distrust their government, they don’t like each other much either, the poll suggested. A resounding 73% of Republicans agreed that Democrats were “bullies” trying to impose their views on others, and 70% said Democrats are “generally untruthful.” When Democrats were asked the same two questions about Republicans, 74% and 69% of them agreed respectively.

The divisions however are not yet at a point where people would prefer some form of segregation along political lines, the poll indicated. Americans are overwhelmingly fine with having people from the opposite camp marrying into their families, teaching their kids at school or babysitting for them.

Half of the respondents said the root of the problems with political disagreement in the US is that the other side was “misinformed,” 35% acknowledged that there were just honest differences of opinion.

48% of those polled said news reporters, editors and newscasters were “trying to get their own viewpoint across,” rather than “presenting the facts with as little bias as possible,” a view that was supported by 37%.

Cable news and commenters on social media were perceived as being far more politicized than local news, which 74% trust to report events in good faith. The attitude towards national newspapers like the New York Times was divided across political lines. Just 24% of Republicans perceive them as honest actors, compared to 70% of Democrats.

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LA STRATEGIA DEL SACRIFICIO UMANO IN STILLICIDIO DEL GREAT RESET E' FALLITA. ADESSO DEVONO TIRARE FUORI IL BAZOOKA PER NON FINIRE TUTTI IN GALERA.

World War Extinction: Globalist Depopulation Op has Hit Humanity

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Alex Jones breaks down the collapsing pieces of society as the globalist great reset plan to plunge humanity into an extinction level war are revealed.

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AGNELLO DI DIO CHE TOGLI TUTTI I PECCATI DEL MONDO: UGO MATTEI VI DICE "SACRIFICATEVI SUPREMAMENTE" - POI I VOSTRI FIGLI E NONNI CHI LI PROTEGGERA' DA QUESTI PSICOPATICI??? QUANDO I PROF UNIVERSITARI FANNO PIU' DANNI DEL DRAGHISTAN

 

“QUESTA È UNA TIRANNIA, VI SPIEGO COME USCIRNE” – Ugo Mattei intervistato da Claudio Messora

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Ci sono persone che per dire una cosa ci girano intorno all’infinito, senza mai arrivare al punto. Non è il caso di Ugo Mattei, giurista e docente internazionale di diritto, a Torino e in California, fondatore del CNL, il Comitato di Liberazione Nazionale, e della Commissione DuPre, Dubbio e Precauzione, insieme a Massimo Cacciari e a Carlo Freccero.

“Questa è una tirannia”. Tutte le riforme progressiste che sono state realizzate a vantaggio dei cittadini e dei lavoratori nell’ultimo secolo sono state smantellate una ad una, fino ad ottenere un controllo totale da parte del potere, attuato grazie alla società del controllo digitale tecnoassistito. In autunno – e Mattei vorrebbe tanto sbagliarsi – assisteremo ad una tempesta perfetta, la concentrazione degli effetti di tre emergenze che si potevano evitare, ma la cui gestione secondo Mattei non solo è stata sbagliata, ma è stata appositamente studiata perché consentisse di attuare la distopia dell’asservimento totale e definitivo.

Così, l’emergenza sanitaria, quella bellica e quella ambientale, tutte largamente anticipate nei grandi consessi internazionali, dagli scenari delle università americane finanziate da Clinton e Gates fino ai manifesti presentati a Davos. troveranno dopo l’estate il campo ideale di attuazione.

Cosa fare allora se ci chiudessero tutti in casa e impedissero tutte le forme di comunicazione, ad eccezione dei megafoni televisivi? Il controllo sulle telecomunicazioni reso possibile dal mondo digitale consente infatti di tagliare tutti i ponti tra le persone in qualsiasi momento. È assurdo, dite? E se vi avessero detto, solo due anni fa, che vi avrebbero chiusi in casa per mesi, e che un drone vi avrebbe inseguito per strada mentre facevate jogging, ci avreste creduto?

Ecco che entra in scena il CNL di Mattei, che attraverso i Caucus (assemblee spontanee che si tengono in tutte le regioni, le province e le piazze dei comuni italiani) elegge ogni giorno nuovi rappresentanti, con lo scopo di stilare un piano operativo dettagliato da attuare nel caso in cui si verificasse l’apocalisse dei diritti.

In questa lunga intervista di Claudio Messora, Ugo Mattei vi spiega perché viviamo in una tirannia, e come partecipare ai Caucus per restare liberi.

Intanto, il Caucus di oggi, 2 luglio 2022, si terrà a ROMA, in via del Casale di San Nicola 150, alle ore 19.

AGNELLO DI DIO CHE TOGLI TUTTI I PECCATI DEL MONDO: UGO MATTEI VI DICE "SACRIFICATEVI SUPREMAMENTE" - POI I VOSTRI FIGLI E NONNI CHI LI PROTEGGERA' DA QUESTI PSICOPATICI??? QUANDO I PROF UNIVERSITARI FANNO PIU' DANNI DEL DRAGHISTAN

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https://www.radioradio.it/2022/07/mattei-scontro-finale-governo/


“Il Governo Draghi non si fa carica delle conseguenze disastrose delle scelte che fa, esattamente come ogni regime dittatoriale. Ci ha coinvolto in un conflitto bellico che non ci riguarda e che porterà alla rovina economica del Paese. Una rovina che non sarà casuale bensì frutto di un disegno molto chiaro: lo scopo è mettere in ginocchio il ceto medio e l’Italia in una posizione di ancor peggiore sudditanza rispetto all’asse finanziario anglo-americano”. Così il giurista e accademico Ugo Mattei in occasione della Festa della Resistenza Costituzionale che si è tenuto nel weekend a Torino.

“Ormai non c’è più da avere pazienza, dobbiamo arrivare a uno scontro definitivo per cacciare via questi poteri corrotti. Ma sarà uno scontro che vedrà nascere i primi embrioni di una democrazia partecipativa che non vivrà più col ricatto del capitalismo. Dobbiamo costruire queste nuove istituzioni, questo nuovo modo di stare insieme, ma a una condizione: possiamo vincere solo se sapremo essere capaci di sviluppare forme di lotta rigorosamente non violente, trasparenti, libere. I cambiamenti di regime, nell’era tecnologica, non possono più avvenire con i vecchi scontri di piazza”.

Secondo Mattei non c’è più tempo da perdere, non è più il tempo della pazienza, “soprattutto dopo che questo Governo ha messo a repentaglio anche la vita dei nostri bambini. Quando il vaso è colmo, la reazione deve essere tale da portare, se necessario, anche al sacrificio estremo”.

Di seguito l’intervento completo:

UNIAMOCI intervento della dott.ssa Alessandra Chiavegatti

 

UNIAMOCI intervento della dott.ssa Alessandra Chiavegatti

Intervento della dott.ssa Alessandra Chiavegatti al primo incontro UNIAMOCI, che si è svolto il 19 giugno 2022 a Faenza, organizzato da Armando Manocchia.

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Vaccino Covid, Speranza: immediatamente quarta dose agli over 60

Speranza: “Subito al via quarta dose agli over 60 anche in Italia”
“Guai a pensare che la battaglia contro il Covid sia vinta. La battaglia del Covid è ancora in corso e dobbiamo tutti insieme tenere un livello di attenzione e di prudenza. Proprio oggi le due istituzioni per noi internazionali di riferimento Ecdc e Ema hanno aperto alla somministrazione del secondo richiamo, la quarta dose, anche alle persone over 60. E proprio in queste ore, immediatamente, già nella giornata di oggi adegueremo le nostre linee guida, le nostre circolari e le indicazioni, a questa determinazione dell’Ema e dell’Ecdc. Quindi apriremo immediatamente sui nostri territori la somministrazione della quarta dose anche alle persone sopra i 60 anni“.

Lo ha annunciato il ministro della Salute Roberto Speranza, nel suo intervento al congresso nazionale dei Uil pensionati a Roma. Fonte: Agenzia Vista

11/07/22

Former Polish president suggests reducing Russia’s population

 

Former Polish president suggests reducing Russia’s population

The West should either change the Russian “political system” or instigate a massive uprising, Lech Walesa believes
Former Polish president suggests reducing Russia’s population

The world will never be safe as long as modern-day Russia exists, former Polish president Lech Walesa told French broadcaster LCI on Friday, claiming that Russia is “imperial” in nature and will always seek to “keep annexing peoples.”

Even if Western nations would help Ukraine to win its ongoing conflict with Moscow, they would still fail to make the world a safer place, Walesa argued, adding the international community would potentially see another conflict involving Russia “in five years.” “In ten years, we will see another Putin arise,” he added, referring to Russian president Vladimir Putin, who is increasingly portrayed as an autocratic strongman by Western officials and the media.

To avoid such a development, the West “must force [a] change of political system” in Russia, the former Polish president believes. If it proves to be impossible, “organizing an uprising” would be another option, he said.

According to Walesa, Russia still has “60 peoples, who have been annexed like Ukrainians [are being annexed] today.” It would be “necessary to stir those peoples … to action” to bring Russia’s population “back to less than 50 million,” the former president said, pointing to a potential forceful disintegration of the modern-day Russia. According to the latest population census held in 2021, Russia’s population currently amounts to around 147 million people, the state statistical agency, Rosstat, said in April.

Walesa, who was a co-founder of the Solidarity movement that brought down the socialist government in Poland, also argued that the West should have “brought Russia down” but it eventually fell for the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev’s positive image and wasted its chance.

“We should have brought Russia down. But Gorbachev was too smart. We said to ourselves at the time: ‘There was Stalin, Brezhnev, but Gorbachev is nice’,” Walesa said, adding that “it was our mistake then.” According to the former Polish leader, Russia was allowed to “wait out” the hard times and to “carry on like they have done for centuries and keep annexing people into their empire.”

The former Polish president also defended NATO and EU expansion by saying that, although the West has its own interests and seeks to exert its influence and power, it does so “in a democratic way.”

“There are two systems now: … the democracies and NATO, which want to expand but [do so] through democratic means, by seeking approval of the peoples, [and] … Russia and China, who have resorted to the old methods of annexation,” he said.

Walesa, who was president between 1990 and 1995, has recently emerged as one of Russia’s fiercest critics. In early February, even before the start of the Russian military action in Ukraine, the former Polish leader called on the world to “mobilize” for an “immediate response” to Russia’s attack on Ukraine. At that time, he said an attack on Kiev by Russia should be followed by “an attack on Moscow.”

Back in early February, Walesa still called Russia “a great country” that just “has problems.” He also admitted that he “respected Putin very much and supported him.”